Riding technique

[Blaze83]

Originally Posted by Matty - RR

difentely true.... pride does come into affect. however, i learned on a 600 and most of my friends did too. in all honesty like i said you can get into as much trouble on a 250 as well as a 1000cc. you go into a turn too hot on either bike, and don't know how to compensate weather it be countersteering or leaning you going wide or going down. as for on the freeway. ya you're right you grab too much throttle on the 250 you ain't going to take off like a bat out of hell. but you still run the chance of getting hurt.

the key is patience.... whether it be a 250,600,750, or 1000 you have to take your time. when i went up to the 1000 from my 600 everyone said it would be a huge difference. it wasn't. the only difference was the throttle response. but if you respect it, you'll be alrite.

the problem with the 250, there's not enough power to learn how really learn how to lean in a corner. it's like riding a mo-tard it's effortless.

i's all good, we all learned how to ride, and we're all doing fine.

but like i said from the beginning.... TAKE THE MSF COURSE!!!

I understand that...but if u got it chances are your gonna use it......with a smaller displacement you don't have it to use. My main focus of this is that learning how to ride ie. proper clutch usage braking etc. should not be done on a 600cc and up sport bike. This is a time when the most mistakes will happen and 600cc albeit less than 1000cc is a high performance machine that will bit ur butt hard when make the newb mistakes. Most people who start riding can't even slow the bike down like is should, now put them on something that can don 0-60 in high 2's and then have to slow down because of someone or something in the road.

Yes the MSF course is great and every one should take it but howning ur skill from seat time and seat time on a 600 for a newb is a dangerous thing.

[KinkyKatie]

i am just amazed that they dont make you learn stuff like braking, clutch and throttle control and the like before they let you loose!

over here you have to take a theory based exam, do a full days basic training on a 125 or below and then take an hours practical test which involves an observed road ride, including a u-turn and an emergency stop - oh and you have to be over 21 before you can ride anything over 33bhp

even after all that i couldnt ride for shit for the 1st 6 months after passing my test!!!!

[gsxrsoaresk4]

get the Beginner Riders Course book and video its the same as goin to the school

[ozzuker]

My 1100 is my first bike other than my old TT250 dirtbike years ago and I know its an old question right back at the beginning of this post but how thick would the book be if someone did write it and could you imagine these days the author getting sued because johnny came off wheelstanding around a hairpin corner but the book didnt say anything about not being able to do that.

[Superman750]

Look, it is all about respect. A noob could hope onto a brand new literbike, and as long as they respect it then they will be fine. I started out on a brand new 600 and I have been riding for a year and a half. Everyone should take an MSF and everyone should remember the phrase "there are two types of riders... those that have gone down, and those that are going to go down." That is why you always gear up. And to find out your powerband, either go out and play, or go get it dynoed. When I am out in a controlled area, I will mostly use the upper portions of my tach, and I have no problem shifting at 15k.

[VIZuki]

JUmp on and switch into first grab some throttle till you get about to 5000 RPM's let go of gas hit the throttle wide open as soon as she gets to 3000 RPM and hold on...thats the best advice....naw just messin but take it easy and ride in an empty parking lot if possible that way if you fall you'll only hurt your bike at the least.

[Knoxvillan]

Originally Posted by VIZuki

JUmp on and switch into first grab some throttle till you get about to 5000 RPM's let go of gas hit the throttle wide open as soon as she gets to 3000 RPM and hold on...thats the best advice....naw just messin but take it easy and ride in an empty parking lot if possible that way if you fall you'll only hurt your bike at the least.

what? ok, roll the throttle to 5000 rpms let go and then grab a handfull of throttle and let it get to 3000 rpms???¿ umm I swear that is what I read.... something sounds funny about this man. hahaha do you mean redline it in first and dump the clutch?? and you forgot to say cover the rear brake. haha

[MR DANGLES]

don't sweat the technique (i'm a post whore) lol

[NathanDC]

Shifting gears?

Try listening to your bike...The more it screams ..means more output from the motor...meaning more power. If you don't need the extra work from the motor - shift. If you really want to get technical take your bike and have it dyno'd like another member said. Shifting about a 1,000 rpm past peak hp on the track usually does the trick.

For launching a bike you quickly release the clutch at max torque.

I'm for one with at least some good beginner books. Keith Code is the man, and if you have the money take a course. I also wouldn't waste money on a learner bike.You can get a 600 and then you have a learner bike and your bike to have fun on. Like someone else said respect it. My buddies first bike was a 05' 6RR and now he is going to track days.

[SexyVixenSF]

Someone mentioned 100+hp 600's...

When talking to a new rider I figure it like this...regardless of what I say they are going to get w/e size bike they have in mind...Some are ok with the idea of starting small...others arent...so if I hear that they are more inclined towards the 600's I start suggesting used bikes, older bikes or 600's with lower HP...Katana, FZR, SV's, Ninja 650...All have a lot less power than the race reps out there, so I try to lean them more towards one of those choices if they are going to try and "go big". I think we all HOPE new riders are going to respect the power their bikes have, but not every one of them will, some are cocky.

On top of that, its their money and their skin, we can preach all we want and they will still find a way in their mind to justify their decision so there is no use in fighting it, best thing to do is give them safer options...I would rather suggest a FZR over an R6 ya know? I ALWAYS suggest the Basic course though and those who think they are above it, I introduce to friends who had been riding for years and did ok but did better after the class...that way the newb will assume they will have the upperhand of knowledge somewhere...I dont care what they think just as long as they take the class.

[gixxerhb]

I learned on a 750 and had no problems. Just don't be stupid.

[bmorelocs]

I'm still a noob...on a 600...and i agree with most....take a class...u'll learn a lil' more than u think u know...and respect ur bike!!!! Respect her, and she'll take care of you!

[k3.]

I think best advice is Advance riding or US equivelant, and some other good advice is always stick to YOUR OWN limit and abilities, DO NOT try and ride the same as the more experienced rider,or you will end up in trouble.

[UAGIXXER]

Originally Posted by gixxerhb

I learned on a 750 and had no problems. Just don't be stupid.

+1!

[Hong3103]

MSF... seat time... seat time.... more seat time... TRACKDAYS!!! The one place you can actually learn some riding techniques w/o worrying about douchebag drivers on their cell phone, mom's in their huge ass SUV's talking on their cell phone, cops, and road debris. Not to mention that the amublance is right there on the track if the worst case scenaerio happens to you.