Riding technique - Page 2

Matty - RR · 11-13-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamin Gixxer

lol , its very simple really ... Shifting gears .. we all do it .. right ? What i would like to know is when you guys change gears, like what speeds and on what bases do u change gears.
For example if im drag racing, which speeds would give me the best shifts ?

i really amazed to see some of the question being asked on this board. not trying to put anyone down. but if you're really asking when to shift gears you really need to refer back to a 10 speed bicycle.

seriously..... there's no science to when to shift. use your tachometer. when you're doing normal riding.... keep it in the 4 - 7 RPM range.

when you're on streets no need to get above 4th gear.

when you're riding hard, canyon/track, never be below 7500 RPM.

when you're pushing hard.... stay in lower gears almost to the point of redlining. unless you're on a straightaway there's really no need to be out of 4th. most canyons i ride, i'm usually doing 2nd and 3rd. 3rd gear can bring you up to about 130 or so on most bikes.

on the real.

to maintain the most power out of your bike, stay around the powerband range. you don't know where that is. go read your manual.

Flamin Gixxer · 11-14-2006, 12:25 AM

Thnks ... u c that cleared everythin for me

its not that i duno when 2 switch gears i just duno how to get optimum performance out of it

courtney · 11-14-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jin4g63

Can someone write a guide for newbies, becasue i will be picking up my first bike next week. if there is anyone with some real experience that wants to help the newbies out so we wont get our ass killed on the road.

you should def. take the motorcycle course!

Blaze83 · 11-14-2006, 11:59 AM

The reason i say a 250 is due to the facts that 1. they are more forgiving when u mess up seeing how there isn't much power. 2. You will hown your skill much faster in a smaller bike. 3. it won't cost as much when u fall. I think a 600 is too much power on demand for a newbie. 100 plus hp + Newbie= injury or death.

Stunter2B · 11-14-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamin Gixxer

Thnks ... u c that cleared everythin for me

its not that i duno when 2 switch gears i just duno how to get optimum performance out of it

Lets say its cause your drag racing..
Bottom line when you shift gear you dont want to drop RPM out of powerband.

Me I shift around 12 000rpm and when I do that My RPM stays always in the powerband.

Thats optimal.
All bikes will have a diff powerband so go out and experiment with shifting.

Stunter2B · 11-14-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze83

The reason i say a 250 is due to the facts that 1. they are more forgiving when u mess up seeing how there isn't much power. 2. You will hown your skill much faster in a smaller bike. 3. it won't cost as much when u fall. I think a 600 is too much power on demand for a newbie. 100 plus hp + Newbie= injury or death.

I couldn't agree more with you blaze...a 600 for a noob's first bike could be a disaster...especially if he don't respect it and thinks IT'S ONLY A 600cc

Panic time grab a hand full of throttle and noob is on his ass.

And no one is saying get a NEW 250..
Hell I learned on a Honda CM 450 but that was back in 1986
Then I moved on to a Kawasaki 650, then a 1992 Katana 1100, then a Gsxr750..

Matty - RR · 11-14-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stunter2B

Me I shift around 12 000rpm and when I do that My RPM stays always in the powerband.

that's pretty damn high to be shifting at.....if you a rookie you'll be on your ass with your bike doing somesaults.

stay around 8 - 10K and you'll be straight. still in powerband range and not overdoing it!

Stunter2B · 11-14-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty - RR

that's pretty damn high to be shifting at.....if you a rookie you'll be on your ass with your bike doing somesaults.

stay around 8 - 10K and you'll be straight. still in powerband range and not overdoing it!

Now I didn't say DUMP the clutch at 12k..lol

I have no issues shifting at 12k and doing real good times on the 1/4 mile

Matty - RR · 11-14-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stunter2B

Now I didn't say DUMP the clutch at 12k..lol

I have no issues shifting at 12k and doing real good times on the 1/4 mile

alrite there... Bike Boy!!!!

Burn Rubber, Not Your Soul!!!

Hahahahahha!!!

KinkyKatie · 11-14-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dark1

take a course.do u have classes where u live to get ur motorcycle l's.if so those are good for beginners plus u can drop their bikes & not have to worry bout payin for it.plus they teach things newbies need to know like stopping and get the bike to move in low gears

errrr - do you guys not have to learn this shit before they legally let you out on the road???!!!!

Matty - RR · 11-14-2006, 05:44 PM

i still diagree with the no 600cc for a noob. i started on a 600, and so did a lot of my friends. you can get into trouble just as fast on a 250 as you can on a 1000cc.

it's all good, we all entitled to our own opinions!

KinkyKatie · 11-14-2006, 05:47 PM

i started on a 400 and got a 600 after 3 months - all will be fine as long as confidence does not overtake ability

SoNiC · 11-14-2006, 06:12 PM

I'm startin on a 600, im just respectin the bike for now, till i get more experience under my belt

Blaze83 · 11-14-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty - RR

......... you can get into trouble just as fast on a 250 as you can on a 1000cc.

This is not even possible.... ex250 1/4 Mile ET: 16.770 2003 r1 1/4 Mile ET: 10.928.(6 seconds is a very long time) I think most peoples pride comes into play because they don't want to ride a 250 cause it's not a "big bike". I don't know why anyone who rides would tell a newb to get a 600 as their first bike unless they wanted them to get hurt. Learning curve on a 600 is much steeper than a smaller displacement bike.

Matty - RR · 11-14-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze83

This is not even possible.... ex250 1/4 Mile ET: 16.770 2003 r1 1/4 Mile ET: 10.928.(6 seconds is a very long time) I think most peoples pride comes into play because they don't want to ride a 250 cause it's not a "big bike". I don't know why anyone who rides would tell a newb to get a 600 as their first bike unless they wanted them to get hurt. Learning curve on a 600 is much steeper than a smaller displacement bike.

difentely true.... pride does come into affect. however, i learned on a 600 and most of my friends did too. in all honesty like i said you can get into as much trouble on a 250 as well as a 1000cc. you go into a turn too hot on either bike, and don't know how to compensate weather it be countersteering or leaning you going wide or going down. as for on the freeway. ya you're right you grab too much throttle on the 250 you ain't going to take off like a bat out of hell. but you still run the chance of getting hurt.

the key is patience.... whether it be a 250,600,750, or 1000 you have to take your time. when i went up to the 1000 from my 600 everyone said it would be a huge difference. it wasn't. the only difference was the throttle response. but if you respect it, you'll be alrite.

the problem with the 250, there's not enough power to learn how really learn how to lean in a corner. it's like riding a mo-tard it's effortless.

i's all good, we all learned how to ride, and we're all doing fine.

but like i said from the beginning.... TAKE THE MSF COURSE!!!